Saddle lightley used you can tell by the underside its still new and fuzzy,its a 15 1/2' seat full quarter horse bars 500 obo i payed 600 the pictures are from when it was purchsed, it still looks the same. I used it a hand full of times, the sinch tie strap an billit go with it ..Also 17' english saddle 230$. possible to delivery make me an offer i need to buy bigger one asap